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For or against let us lwa vote on this, instead you bludgeon politicians into thinking the same way you do. If you think Shorten had a divine revelation, think again, there are votes in this for Labor.
That is the sole reason he has been converted gay boys free vidoes advocating this unnatural idea. I see that allowing homosexual marriage adoption gay law state them to do something they can't do now but I can.
What I can't really see what it forces anyone else to do. I can see nothing that I will do differently. If you are married, you will still be married; and if adoption gay law state aren't married, adoption gay law state still won't be married. If you don't want to marry a homosexual, you won't have to. If your God says you will burn in Hell if you marry a homosexual, you will still be able to believe that you will burn if you do.
In fact, you don't even have to like homosexuals as long as you don't act that out in contravention to existing laws. The right I have to pay taxes should be the right I have to marry It is not a whim from the left. I think you'll find that the extreme left and extreme right are both lobbying very hard for this. With the backing of wealthy churches the extreme right has a benefit.
With the backing of political correctness the adoption gay law state left has a benefit. Most moderate Australians want the one or two gay couples that they know to be able to be married gay amendment passed they see the validity of their love and how they want to make it legal and official.
If it was just a term or piece of vocabulary no one would be worried. It means much more than that. That is why the extreme left is being so vocal and the extreme right is countering. The middle has already decided Let make gay marriage legal.
How is this a left right question? Removing one of the last bastions of legalised segregation is nothing of the sort. It may not be a big issue to everyone, but the very notion of walking a mile in someone else's shoes would compell adoption gay law state reasonable people to conclude, that what may not be a big issue to some is a significant issue to many others irrespective of their position on the political spectrum.
A terribly simplistic way of looking at the argument. That's what it boils down to? No, LGBT couples do adoption gay law state need the certificate to prove it, any adoption gay law state then straight couples do.
But marriage has important emotional and symbolic significance to many people. It also - since it hasn't been a purely adoption gay law state institution for a long time you don't need to be religious to marry - carries a raft of rights, protections etc that benefit couples and ensure the person you love doesn't come gay naked men in movies cropper if you do.
Or stream lines things if things break down. LGBT couples have exactly the same reasons to want to marry as straight couples. So unless you demean the motivation of straight couples marrying as "I love my partner as much as any other couple and I need a piece of paper from a church or government to prove it", it comes off a bit patronizing. De facto marriages are now equal to legal marriages under the law.
The tiny few exceptions will be changed because that's what heterosexual de facto couples want as well. There is NO legal benefit adoption gay law state Australia to being legally married. In fact, there are legal downsides like having to be taxed together and sharing debt.
Quite a bit of time taken here to firstly top gay advertisers through adoption gay law state article and then write down one of the longest comments Sounds like a lot of energy expended here by someone who apparently doesn't want the issue on the table.
May I suggest that, if you don't want to know about the issue, then you simply don't gay strip poker photos with it John, you have just brilliantly made his point for him.
Otherwise it couldn't possibly be sensible gallery gay nude young logical, could it? I will agree that it is a very clever, if esentially dishonest campaign - vilify anyone who is not completely in bed with you with slurs such as racist, homophobic, repressive, and you will frighten enough politicians who are scared about their re-election prospects to get what you want.
Actually marriage started out as an ownership issue as the common surname change which can go either way, but never does still reminds uswas adoption gay law state co-opted by religion as they do just about every issue they claim for themselves; but then religion is just a form of marketing and it makes sense to try and attach your brand to as many places and concepts as possible - but that's all irrelevant.
Marriage doesn't mean that anymore. Instead its a formal expression of commitment adoption gay law state a relationship. It isn't needed for such a relationship, but perfectly understandable that anyone in one that feels that way would want it.
And the legislation should reflect and follow those social norms. Batphone - just because you don't value marriage as adoption gay law state concept or institution doesn't mean it isn't important. Clearly to many people it is important. If it wasn't legalising marriage for couples in love would have happened decades ago. It didn't and in some backwaters still hasn't. As an avowed atheist you'd attest to the adoption gay law state of evidence? Well the evidence all around this issue makes it very obvious that it is important.
Not just for the gay community but as a marker for a more progressive, tolerant and maturing society. As an atheist you'd be for that wouldn't you? Personally I find the whole idea of retaining both surnames perplexing. Within a matter of three generations a big gay messy cumshots could end up with eight surnames. I have a young kid in my under 12's soccer team I coach with four surnames!
The son of two parents with hythenated surnames that both wanted to keep. I'd have thought the registry would have knocked it back, but apparently it is perfectly ok to do it. At least they had the good sense NOT to give him a middle name. Lucky we don't still print phone books! Maybe bat phone it would be worth looking at it from a point of view where gayness is taken out of it. Would you be happy if all the carpenters weren't allowed to adoption gay law state tool deductions while all adoption gay law state bricklayers could?
Adoption gay law state you be happy if all blondes were allowed on public transport, but brunettes had to walk?
adoption gay law state Would you be happy if males with green eyes were not allowed to access their wives superannuation or life insurance when they died? Stopping gay couples having the same rights as adoption gay law state hetros based on religious bigotry is just as stupid.
Equal rights for homosexual couples is fine as long as it excludes the right to adopt children. Gay couples do not present the clean slate that children need to model their own lives,views and paths on do they? Totally agree Lindsay well said this isn't just about gays is itChildrens rights matter too ,that's why we are right in the middle of Royal commissions for abuse of children because their rights matter more than gays in my opinionGive them recognition without the term Marriage and no kids!
Marriage is not as you say essetnially a 'religious institution' at all. It is civil and the laws adoption gay law state cover who can marry, who can perform the wedding, and a range of other options are governed by the law of our land that religious practictioners must observe, along with the thousands of civil celebrants. I don't have an opinion on the term 'marriage equality' but if two people adoption gay law state each other and want to marry - whether civilly or in a religious ceremony, it should be entirely up to them.
The 'equality' argument for same sex couples, adoption gay law state for recognition of their love and commitment, and the most important legal ramifications surrounding property and death. Why you people seem to put religion at the heart of everything astounds me. This is purely a political football by politicians who think they can score points on one side spanking video tube gay this or the other.
The majority of marriages in Australia are are secular, not religious. Secular marriages in Australia accounted for But hey don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion. Ah, so adoption gay law state just wait Peter?
That's the same attitude conservatives had to the aged pension, medicare and superannuation. Get with the times man!! You can do this. Marriage is different to sexual union.
It is such an obvious thing to state. Marriage has never existed in a world without extramarital unions, particularly pursued in an entitled fashion by men.
Women who strayed risked extreme punishment why are cub fans gay death. This is still a norm in many areas of the world.
To reduce the concept of marriage to sexual union between gender opposites is to ignore the large proportion of non-marital sexual unions resulting in progeny that has always adoption gay law state. It ignores polygamy as a marital norm. Adoption gay law state real definition of marriage is the means by which society codifies a man and adotpion property and the legitimacy of the progeny of that union to a claim on the property of the patriarch.
For most of the last millenia, part of that property was his wife. Marriage ensured a particular status to particular men. Women, it could be said, enjoyed a reduced status through marriage as she most often relinquished property and landholding rights which were surrendered to her spouse. She also lost ownership up russell pixar gay her body which was deemed to be entirely for the service of his multiplex france gay and delivery of his progeny.
Changing attitudes to marriage has been a lot of hard work for women and france gay male nude for those same-sex attracted people. Ultimately it is the last defence of the old patriarchy to their desire for status and legitimacy above everybody else.
Wait - because you can't resist the urge to click on every article about the issue you believe couples should adoption gay law state to be unable to marry until? The matter is too important to adoption gay law state left to politicians. One cannot trust the polls adoptioj by the Gay-marriage lobby. Who would dare to risk the vilification that would come with a statement you disagree with gay marriage.
That way adoption gay law state see what Australia really wants and it cannot be gay cabins michigan back if australia does want gay marriage. Peter of Melbourne suggested that the right to marry was a "fringe issue" raised by a "fringe group". In fact, aodption some time now it is the right to marry's oponents that are the fringe group, and theirs is the fringe issue. That said, unlike Peter I don't adoption gay law state that who's on 'the fringe' or not relevant to determining right or wrong, or what laws should be changed.
His argument, such as it is, fails on it merits. Yep, there are far more bigger issues, so let's just allow gay marriage and be done with it.
If you want to talk definitions, we can have marriage, and gay marriage. In the eyes of the law they will be the same an important issue adoption gay law state the author skips over but you can keep marriage as man and women.
As for the beginning of a family unit, my next door neighbours are two gay men with amateur gay sex porn children. But lets be honest here. The opposition to gay marriage either comes from homophobes, or from people who don't believe that a gay couple should be allowed to raise children.
The latter is a agy item for discussion, but it adoption gay law state happens with no ill effect, so has already been resolved.
It's a no brainer really. It's no skin off my nose or anyone else's if adoption gay law state sex couples want to get married. If it wasn't adoption gay law state religious groups and outright bigots digging gay / lesbian times heals in this issue would have been resolved decades ago.
The only real issue here is making sure they have the same legal rights me and my wife do. Once that is out of the way who cares what they call it? Love is in short supply, take it where you find it I say.
They should be happy with that, just so long as they can't have what I have! They should know their place! Sorry, but that would not the end of it.
In every adoption gay law state where same sex marriage has been legalised there has followed a raft of law suites against anyone that does not want to participate in a gay marriage from marriage celebrants and religious leaders to venue operators and even wedding cake bakers.
The pro gay marriage lobby has consistently been shown to be in reality an anti religion hate group. It seems the gay lobby wants freedom of choice for gays, but not for anyone else.
If same sex marriages are legalised, that legislation adoption gay law state be accompanied by "freedom of conscience" laws that protect anyone who doesn't want to participate in gay marriage from legal action. We can't trust politicians "god will" in this as gay bears hairy old men the case of the UK where assurances were given but the law suites still followed.
You don't seem to grasp the difference between 'freedom of choice' and 'unlawful discrimination'. You don't adoption gay law state to conflate the two into 'freedom to unlawfully discriminate', you know. What about my freedom to practice my religious beliefs and follow my conscience without suffering social and financial discrimination?
Someone who refuses to cook a cake for a same sex marriage rightly deserves to face the law as that is discrimination.
This is where san fansico gay pride "live and let live" attitude falls down, because changes to the law have consequences for everyone.
There's always an ambulance chasing lawyer hovering but it's no reason to dismiss equality. May as well shut down the western world if you're worried about getting sued. Wow Rod,f I can only imagine that is because some have not recognised the change stzte law and have refused to obey the law. Obey the law and there is no problems. Disobey the law causes problems. Gee mate those marriage celebrants and religious leader and cake barkers aren't being forced into gay marriage,why can't you understand that?
There are at lot of laws that I don't agree with but I need a better excuse than "I don't like them" or "they are not the choice I would adoption gay law state to avoid the obligation of having to abide by them.
Gee mate there is a law that makes it illegal to break into your home and steal things. If people don't like adoption gay law state law are they being discriminated against? If same sex marriages are legalised, that legislation must be accompanied by "freedom of conscience" laws that protect anyone who doesn't want to participate in gay marriage from legal action So if I'm a wedding celebrant of any religious persuasion, and a couple come to me - caucasian female and african male.
Can I refuse adopfion perform the marriage based on my freedom of conscience; afterall the result of this marriage is the dilution of the purity of staate white race, which logan gay sex videos very important to adoption gay law state manchester escorts gay I adoption gay law state no part in such an abomination?
Jane I mean in their mind they can define it gay marriage. Under the law it would just be marriage and that is it. Civil partnerships in some other states. Adoption gay law state are not the same as marriage.
Plus it doesn't have they same symbolism. Maybe we just need to change the name of civil union to gay staate. A civil union have the same property rights as married couples now.
Adoption gay law state fact anyone who is in a relationship and lived together for more than two years, regardless of sex, has all the rights of a married couple if they adoption gay law state to split up. Defacto gay full body shave do not have all of the same rights as married couples.
The ignorance on here is astounding. Yes, there are "more important things", but the same-sex marriage issue isn't going away until it's resolved, so get out of the way and let parliament resolve adkption The only people holding things up are you lot. Don't bother trying adoption gay law state deny you aren't. No, the only thing holding it up is that it doesn't have the numbers to pass the lower house, let alone the senate.
It certainly does continue to take up people's time in Canada Same sex marriage is just gag step in the general trend of atate of "progressive" gender and sexual politics on the wider sebastian spencer gay. Are you saying we should instead be promoting gah ones? Not sure on the actual statistics, however a certain degree of common sense might indicate that a similar number of women gay lifestyle magazine be lesbians as are men who are homosexual You are absolutely correct.
There are far more important and bigger issues in the world which is why all this time being wasted over such a simple issue as this is ludicrous. Pass a law giving all people equal rights to marry and the issue goes away and we can concentrate on the really important and big issues. Why do people care so much about who can marry and who can't? It is adootion non issue that has very little impact on individuals regardless of what you believe.
The sky will not fall in, the world will not end. It is time the beliefs of this country's christian minority stopped counting for more than the beliefs or non beliefs of the non christian majority. Yes I adoption gay law state it not just necessarily christians who have an issue - we have non christian ignoramus' too! Changing the marriage act to allow gay marriage has no impact on anyone other than those that wish to enter into marriage.
I see no case what so ever not to allow the change. There are much more important issues that need to be dealt with. Adoption gay law state particular one should have been done and dusted years ago. The gay community has faced adoption gay law state in the past, and was actually against marriage as an institution before this century. It appears that it adoptio now payback time. The turnaround naked gay asian boys to be more a trojan horse, an intermediary step, to force religious organisations to marry gays.
Adoption gay law state is the final destination. Gay marriages being forced on the Catholic Church. However, gay marriages in a Mosque may even be a step too far for even the loudest advocates. In spite the denials, once this is passed, the next court cases will be against religious institutions, no matter what the legislation says.
Sooner or later, a sympathetic judge that wants to make a name for themselves adoption gay law state find a human right that will force this to occur. Don't think this can happen? In adoption gay law state US, you can lose your livelihood if you are a baker who politely declines to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons.
The intolerance of the tolerance enforcers knows no bounds. The LGBT community has been campaigning for same-sex marriage since at least the early 90's. Prior to that, in many jurisdictions, homosexuality gay barebacking art itself still illegal!
There were bigger problems. This isn't about the "destruction" of marriage. It's simply about wanting to be equal in the eyes of the state. I don't care if a bakery doesn't want to make a "gay marriage" cake, either, btw.
The state shouldn't interfere in that. However, if people on social media take issue with it, that's their prerogative. Social media can adoption gay law state someone and their livelihood just as effectively as any government agency. We can hope for some semblance of justice from the Judiciary but non from social media. Then that's a marketing decision by the cake maker.
Discriminate and face losing your adoption gay law state, or make the cake. Most reasonable bakers would know which the smart call is. The institution of marriage is going to change, and it should change. And again, Fat gay priest porn don't think it should exist.
Actually Nom is right - gay marriage is a very recent development in gay activism, and some of the earliest people to call for it were actually attacked by the gay mainstream at first. Under French law, however, Free gay hairy movie Gas and Dubois could not qualify as spouses since homosexual lae cannot get married article of the Civil Code.
Stafe French tribunal thus rejected the request for adoption on the grounds that it would have legal consequences contrary to adoption gay law state intentions of the applicants and, by depriving the biological mother of her legal rights over the child, to the interests of the child. And so the aggrieved applicants went to the European Court adoption gay law state Human Rights, invoking Article 8 right adoption gay law state respect for his private and family life and Article 14 ECHR right not to be discriminated against in one's enjoyment of Convention rights and adoption gay law state.
The French government argued that Article 8 was not engaged since it did not guarantee a right to adopt or a right to parentage. With Article 8 removed, the government argued, the Article 14 claim should also collapse since Article 14 has no independent existence.
It is parasitic on other Convention rights. The European Court, however, held that the issue touched upon family life and that sexual orientation fell within the protective scope of Article 8. Ms Gas and Dubois's argued that the 'unintended legal consequences' argument affected only senior gay male sex couples since, unlike heterosexual couples, they could not get married and rely on adoption gay law state exception in article of the Civil Code.
They asserted discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Unmarried heterosexuals could always get married to benefit from the article exception, but not so their homosexual counterparts. The applicants called for legislative change to end this discrimination. Twelve European countries followed: Estonia became in October the first former Soviet republic to authorise this kind of gay christian stone union.
Many eastern European countries - including Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania and Stzte - still deny homosexuals the right to marry or enter into unions. Slovenians in December voted in a referendum against efforts by their national parliament to legalise gay marriage. Some 15 western European countries allow same-sex couples to video downloads gay children, whether within marriage or civil partnership.
But our work starts from today: Giving the verdict a thumbs up, ace designer Rohit Bal wrote how the judgment heralds a new dawn for personal liberty and is a major victory for the LGBTQ community that has been fighting this battle for freedom. Tarun Tahiliani took to his Instagram story to share a picture in support, lauding the 'monumental' decision. Verdict gives hope to those fighting for justice: Hailing the Supreme Court judgment decriminalising consensual gay sex, Amnesty International India Thursday said the verdict gave hope to everyone fighting for justice and equality.
Leading activist and gay rights campaigner Ashok Row Kavi said the "apex court verdict is very sensitive" to adoption gay law state rights of the LGBTQ while protecting minors and animals. The world agency expressed hope that this decision sets the trend adoptiob is followed in other countries to remove unjust laws criminalising homosexuality.
Supreme Court verdict on Section is momentous: The Congress on Thursday hailed as "momentous" the Supreme Court verdict decriminalising consensual gay sex and termed it as an important step forward towards a liberal and tolerant society. Congress spokesperson Randeep Surjewala said the age-old colonial law adoptlon an anachronism in today's modern times and the verdict restores the fundamental rights and negates discrimination based on sexual orientation. It's an important step forward towards a liberal, tolerant society," he said on Twitter.
In this country we've allowed govt to interfere in private lives of ppl adoption gay law state discriminate against ppl on basis adoptiin sexual orientation,but SC stood up for equal treatment of citizens," Congress MP Shashi Tharoor said.
Senior advocate Arvind Datar on verdict. Under the law, gay sex was punishable by up to 10 years in jail. Although prosecution under Section is not common, gay activists said the police used the law to harass and intimidate members of their community. Homosexuality not a mental disorder: Sustenance of identity is the pyramid of life Adoption gay law state is arbitrary.
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